[TU4 LAN CRINGE ISSUE] Epic Please Help! {1200+ Posts including Mark Rein!!!}

Orynge · 07-03-2009, 03:32 PM

I thought that when Rod mentioned they were adding support for the smoke cringe in the TU, that it would apply for LAN as well!

The ragdoll stun still happens on LAN if you aren't connected to LIVE.

Clearly, this isn't a major issue that affects the majority of Gears players. But, for the people who like to play on LAN, we would like to be able to play the game how it is played online.

Is there any way that Epic can fix this by providing additional support?

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A Quick Review:
+ Currently, the TU4 cringe applies to Xbox Live players only
+ A simple fix to add cringe support for LAN players is requested

[07/05/2009 10:17am EST] Mark Rein responds!

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Originally Posted by Mark Rein

We'll look into it.

More Details About the Issue

COMMUNITY MEMBER SKYLLUS VBI:

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Originally Posted by Skyllus vBi

With this update, Epic added the infrastructure so that the cringe stun would stun in cases where someone was roadie running or taking cover. Our boxes are updated now so that they have the capabilities to have cringe stuns. However, Epic is controlling the cringe with a toggle which is downloaded via the server. So when we connect, Epic tells our box that when a smoke hits us it should read the "Cringe" code instead of the "Ragdoll" code.

The default toggle wasn't updated though, which is what the game does when the server doesn't tell it what to do. So the setting for when a smoke hits you during system link is "Ragdoll" because Epic didn't change that toggle when they patched the game. All Epic needs to do to update it is change the default toggle to "Cringe" and then if they ever want to have Ragdolls online they could change that via the server and leave cringes on LAN.

COMMUNITY MEMBER FALLOUTT:

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Originally Posted by Falloutt

To explain the situation at hand a little bit:

For some reason, the new cringe smokes were NOT included in the TU4 as a console-side update. This means that you must be connected to xbox live to receive and play the newest, and best version of the game.

The reason this creates such a huge issue for the thousands of competitive players who compete at tournaments across the globe is that online, we will be scrimmaging and practicing a COMPLETELY different game than we will be competing in on LAN. Online, we will be forced to practice with Cringe stuns (much better btw) while on LAN we will have to play a much different game with inconsistent ragdoll stuns.

I understand the competitive community has never been of utter importance to you, but we ask for this one and only fix that would do so much for the competitive side of the game. Our community, although quiet, consists of a huge chunk of the hardcore fanbase of this game. Myself, as well as everyone else in the competitive community, has put nearly 5 hours a day for the last 3 years of the GoW franchise playing the game we love. We have never asked for much, but this is our one and only plea and we beg that you take this into consideration and make a change that would literally save the MLG community.

The reason you have seen such a rallying cry from the competitive community is because, without this fix, the chances of this game to continue being played at a competitive level are very low. The game will most likely be dropped from the MLG circuit (they cannot have a game with inconsistent transitions from online to LAN, this would be too hard on competitors - Think CoD4). Like I said earlier, we have all been apart of the hardcore fanbase of GoW for over 3 years and to see our beloved game be dropped from the circuit would be crushing because we all love what we do and the game that we play.

So, Epic, as our one and only rallying cry we ask that you at least take this into consideration to save the 20,000+ people who play this gave at a competitive level, and in turn we'll continue to strongly support the game we love.

A POEM BY COMMUNITY MEMBER NUBBLE:

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Originally Posted by NubbLe

I could use that...

Hey There Mr. Cliffy B
Have you heard of MLG

We're the ones who love to game
We play for cash and for fame

There's not much we ask of you
Maybe fix a glitch or two

We were hoping the update
Would be the best one to date

We thought that when you'd be done
LIVE and LAN play would be one

Because of the Server-Side
Smokes are different when offline

Instead of us stuck in place
We go flying into space

This is a problem you see
Strats won't work at MLG

Since the gameplays not the same
MLG will drop this game

EPIC we are in a jam
And we need a helping hand

All that we're asking of you

Make Your Updates For LAN Too!

The end...

Please EPIC, help us out...

Skyllus vBi · 07-03-2009, 03:35 PM

Can confirm this...when on a non-Silver/Gold account or when not connected to the internet, the update does not apply on System Link. For some reason the update uses a lot of server side stuff instead of patching on LAN as well.

Please fix this Epic.

thebetty · 07-03-2009, 03:39 PM

Looks like they are right, wonder why that is? I thought a TU applied to System link as well.

Skyllus vBi · 07-03-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thebetty

Looks like they are right, wonder why that is? I thought a TU applied to System link as well.

You'd think, since they could patch this stuff online through server side. Thought the whole point was to patch System Link with it and lay groundworks for more server side stuff.

Raiiin · 07-03-2009, 03:51 PM

This is really disappointing and easily fixable. Please let us know epic, I love to play this game with my friends and others at parties, and I don't feel like playing a different game.